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What do you think of this statement about Avandia? CBS News - 43 minutes ago (WebMD) There's no urgent need for type 2 diabetes patients to stop taking Avandia, even if the drug really does increase the risk of heart attack, some medical experts caution.

Pahd replied: "I think it is good advice. If my patients ask, I am telling them to continue the avandia until they can speak with the doctor who gave them the prescription for the avandia. If they have had significant cardiovascular problems in the past, I am urging them to talk to their doctor ASAP, otherwise I advise them to make a regular appointment, or to speak with their prescribing doctor on the phone. In other words, don't stop taking the avandia without speaking to the doctor who gave it to you."

W W D replied: "It's a complicated world. If you're not familiar with meta-analyses, it may seem that something sinister is going on, but this is pretty well business as usual in medicine, where real take-to-the-bank answers are hard to come by. Statistical trends often are misleading, and it will take considerable study looking specifically at that question to determine if rosiglitazone really does what it appears to in terms of cardiovascular risks. You might want to think about this: medications for type II diabetes are usually studied and marketed with an eye to how well they control blood sugar, and blood pressure medications are usually studied and marketed according to how well they control hypertension. It is generally assumed that keeping these controlled will also control cardiovascular risk, but that assumption may very well not be true. The alternative is to keep them in phase III clinical trials for thirty or forty years to get more studies of that particular question, but most of us don't want to wait that long for drugs to come on-line."

john e russo md replied: "I have already answered a question about rosiglitazone/Avandia. Rosiglitazone belongs to a family of drugs which reduce the body's resistance to the effects of insulin. This is a very important class of drugs for type 2 diabetics for whom insulin resistance is universally present leading to increasing production of insulin and eventually pancreatic beta cell failure and the inability to produce insulin. The first drug in this class used in the United States was troglitazone. It was withdrawn by the company for fear of lawsuits. The problem was not with the drug itself it was that physicians ignored warnings that the drug was not for everyone. The 2 remaining drugs in this class in the US are rosiglitazone and pioglitazone/Actos. It is frequently stated in the medical literature that pioglitazone increases the risk of heart failure although there is absolutely no evidence to support this claim. The study which alleges that rosiglitazone may lead to cardiovascular events such as heart attacks, strokes, and deaths has serious flaws which I will outline below. This study is of more interest to attorneys who smell money than it is to physicians. As such the Food and Drug Administration at this time has stated that they have no intention of placing warnings or restrictions on rosiglitazone. The study you are referring to was a meta-analysis. Meta-analysis are by their very definition statistically 'invalid'. They are intended to identify areas where additional study is needed - meta-analysis is never intended to generate 'hard' data, conclusions, or to become the basis for changes in medical practice. A meta-analysis sums up the results of a variety of studies. Such studies have different designs and are designed to answer different questions. It should be obvious that a summation of such data would have inherent limitations. That being said the meta-analysis was a summation of studies of short duration and studies of short duration introduce significant bias for a variety of reasons. The full effect of drugs - for benefit or harm - may take months or years and the likelihood of events is quite different in the short run as opposed to the long run. Finally - the number of events were few - too few in my opinion to lead to any conclusion. For example - 18 people on rosiglitazone as opposed to 12 people on other treatment suffered adverse events. It is true that this is a 50% increase but something which is statistically significant may not be clinically relevant. For example - a study of a drug to increase exercise tolerance in people with narrowing of the arteries in the legs found that the drug produced a statistically significant increase in exercise tolerance. In fact - however - people were able to walk only 3 additional steps. This illustrates the difference between statistics which are easily manipulated and clinically relevant data. Personally I have always preferred pioglitazone to rosiglitazone but not because I believe that the former is safer. No one on rosiglitazone should stop the drug without consulting their physician. Again - at this point this is a legal concern rather than a medical concern. Many drugs are withdrawn after such articles as companies fear lawsuits. Physicians must practice in accordance with the medical literature and not out of fear of attorneys."

crowfeathers replied: "The person above who said this: "It's a complicated world. If you're not familiar with meta-analyses, it may seem that something sinister is going on" Well that's exactly how I feel. You don't know what to do and you don't have enough information to decide yourself. Even if you did have the information, could you understand it? Look at some of the other answers to this question! I had to read them all twice to understand what they were saying. Hopefully your doctor will be informed enough to make the decision for you. It is a complicated world after all. Here for anyone who wants to get a better idea of what meta-analasys means ."

Balasubas replied: "I am diabetic ( Type 2 ), and I used to take Avandia. I am happy that the doctor switched my meds long before this warning about Avandia came out. It still worries me. I feel sorry if those who take, or are still taking Avandia, get heart problems. Web MD you are nuts!!!"

Can any one tell about Avandia? The Dr has prescribed avandia, there is a history of heart disease, and stroke. Would it be wise, for me to take it.

Jennifer K replied: "Every drug has their possibilities for complications. As long as you feel comfortable with your doctor and his decision (and you have talked about all possibilities) then try it. If you still don't feel it wise to take it, then get a second opinion. Have you tried other medications to lower your blood glucose? See if you can explain to your doctor about a change of drug. Good luck!"

Chucky replied: "i don't know Avandia"

Albert Heger replied: "As far as I know the counterindications for Avandia are pregnancy and breastfeeding. However, however: Avandia has a very good patient service with lots of patient literature. Read it carefully. My experience with this medicine together with a diet is excellent in patients who came down from daily levels of 250 mg/dl. to 120/125 mg/dl."

Elke replied: "i been taking it for many years along with glucophage glucotrol and lantus (insulin shots) i now am getting ready to be put on exubera the inhaler of insulin and i get to drop the other pills except avendia and lantus... it has been good for me"

Marilyn H replied: "I took Avandia for a couple of years. I had congestive heart failure a few years ago and the doctor took me off of Avandia and put me on another medication for diabetes. Avandia has been known for not being good for people with heart disease."

My doctor prescribed Avandia in October. Now she will not return my calls about my concern for this latest? study about Avandia leading to cardiac problems. How can I take care of my heart while on Avandia?

bubbles replied: "call and make an appointment and go see your Dr face to face. Tell them you need a medicine check asap. That way you will be able to get a different prescription if you are worried about your meds."

english_tea4two replied: "I am surprised that your doc won't returns your calls. Keep calling! Here's something I found on Advandia, hope it helps you. Best of luck!"

x_masangel69 replied: "Not all doctors know what there talking about and if she dosent have the courtesy to return a call to her pt regarding a concern on medication go to another doctor and get a seciond opinion. Some doctors think they should have to deal with a pt all except for diagnosing. But not all doctors are like that. SOme doctors actually care about the pt him or herself. Do some research on the medication and go to another doctor regarding your concerns and maybe and alternate medication"

john e russo md replied: "For the past year I have been encouraging patients to email me rather than call the office. So many calls come through a busy office during a single day that it is not uncommon for a call to be 'lost'. If you have called 2 or 3 times and not received an answer that would be - in my opinion - a breach of the physician patient covenant. Your concern however is what this recent study means - specifically - will taking rosiglitazone/Avandia lead to heart problems. The internet is a dangerous place and full of mis-information and half-truths. The study in question was a meta-analysis which by definition is statistically 'invalid'. A meta-analysis 'sums' up the results of various studies with different designs and end-points. Meta-analysis by its very nature has serious short comings. Such an analysis is utilized to suggest areas where further study is needed not to make direct or certain conclusions. The conclusion was that cardiovascular events and deaths were higher in the rosiglitazone patients but the analysis of the studies in question was flawed, the total number of patients studied 'small' relative to the end-points, the duration 'short', and actual numbers were small. For example 18 patients on rosiglitazone had events versus 12 patients not taking the drug or taking other drugs. Mathematically that is a 50% increase but simply because something is statistically 'significant' does not mean that it is clinically meaningful. The study which led to the universal use of the drug rtPA to dissolve blod clots in those with heart attacks is a good example. The conclusion was that there was a 20% reduction in death. The actual figure was a decrease from 15% to 12% which is a 20% decrease. Stated in another fashion however the increase in survival was 3%. Since there was a 3% incidence of serious bleeding complications the actual benefit of rtPA was quite small. The point is that researchers are capable of manipulating numbers to achieve headlines. The study in question regarding rosiglitazone/Avandia is going to become more of a legal than a medical issue. Companies have been forced to withdraw drugs from the marketplace in similar circumstances. The first drug in this class of drugs which reduce insulin resistance - troglitazone - was withdrawn because physicians ignored well publicized data suggesting that the drug was not appropriate for all patients rather than due to problems with the drug itself. The two remaining drugs in this very important class are rosiglitazone/Avandia and pioglitazone/Actos. I use pioglitazone but not because I believe it to be safer than rosiglitazone. There are repeated references in the medical literature that pioglitazone has been linked to heart failure and yet there is no data to support such claims. The quality of American medicine has declined rapidly over the past 20 years and we no longer rank in the top 20 countries in the world in terms of outcome measures. Nonetheless - studies such as the one you refer to do not help at all - unless you are an attorney. When such news appears you did what you should have done. You were concerned and that is appropriate. The physicians role includes being sensitive to such concerns. The physician should be committed to education which decreases patient anxiety. You did not leap to a conclusion - you consulted your physician - or at least you tried to. If your physician had returned your call you would not have needed to resort to receiving potentially incorrect and harmful information from non-physicians on the internet. The Food and Drug Administration - which I admit is rather weak and does a very poor job - has no intention at this time of placing additional warnings or restrictions on rosiglitazone/Avandia. Until you speak with your physician you should not stop taking the drug. The best way you can take care of your heart is to control your glucose and that is what the rosiglitazone is for. If you would like additional information please let me know although it would help if I knew your age, onset of diabetes, glucose readings, A1C readings. lipid values, cardiovascular risk profile, other medical problems, and other medications. I wish you the very best of health and hope that this may reduce your anxiety until you are able to speak with your physician. May God bless. "

shashonah replied: "Change Doctors."

I am 34 yrs old and was on Avandia 8mg for about 4 yrs, should I join the Avandia Lawsuit? And which Law firm? I was on avandia from Apr 2002 thru Mar 2007 before my doctor moved me to Glucophage. During this period my Cholestrol levels have been switching between bad and worse based on my diet/activity levels. I was also diagnosed with Hypo thyrodism to help the matters. So my question is if I could have been affected by Avandia and if yes, should I join the law suit, but another dilemma is which law firm, so many pop up when I search on net. I read about PA firm a while ago which was the original one to take up the case but do not remember its name. Any help will be appreciated.

Neka replied: "You need to talk to your doctor to find out if your cholesterol and hypothyroidism could be related to taking avandia. I thought that it just increased your chances of heart attack and heart disease."

Has anyone heard of this? I seen on television a few days ago about Avandia causing people to have fractures . Fractures in ceertain parts of the body. If anyone has heard of this I would like to know if you have any information about it thanks.

bella361 replied: "I thought I saw something about the drug Fosamax causing jaw fractures. Lets face it, there is always going to be some drug causing some problem. I could be wrong and mixed up about which drug it is. Go to this web site.....www.worstdrugs.com I found this from a book call Generation RX. It will make you never want to take another pill again. Good web site with lots of good information. But also be careful of jumping on the lawsuit bandwagon from these commercials. The only one making money from them are the tort lawyers. They suck you in and make the money, not you. Do the research on the drug and I recomend the book. The drug companies are out of control in the country."

Keko replied: "There was a blurb on NPR (national public radio) where they were saying to use it as one of the last possible options in this past week. And something about fractures - maybe last week. Much pain is from muscles below is an example of what may help (based on headaches). Begin with a couple swigs of molasses or a couple of bananas daily - magnesium (which regulates many things in the body) and potassium (a needed building block for muscles). Drink at least 1/2 gallons of water per day. Running a body low on water is like running a car low on oil is the analogy the head of neurology at UCDavis told my husband about 10 years ago. Now to the cause - muscles - your back, neck shoulders and head have tender spots. They are knots in the fibers of the muscles called trigger points. It makes the muscles tight which makes them press on nerves and other things causing the pain. The cure - start with a professional massage, you will also want to go back over any place you can get to 6-12 times per session up to 6 times per day rubbing (or lightly scratching on your head) every where that is tender until the knots go away. The place where the skull connects to the spine press up under the edge of the skull (to get to those muscles). For more information read The Trigger Point Therapy Workbook by Davies. It teaches what to do and where the pain comes from."

Avandia is a miracle drug for my diabetes, is it safe to take? I read in the paper that Avandia causes the same problems as Vioxx did. It has a 43% increase for a heart attack, but works so well on my sugar level. Any medical people that could give me the pros and cons on this?

miaghysun replied: "no is not...it icrease the risc of heart attack with 40%"

Semprus replied: "I think you have to be off your rocker to use ANYTHING that increases your risk of having a heart attack by 43%. Unless ofcourse you're terminally ill- which you're not."

RBRN replied: "No it is not safe to take. Studies have shown that Avandia has the potential to cause congestive heart failure. You heard right. There are other meds that work great but do not have that risk. Amaryl is just one of those."

nochocolate replied: "The doctors and pharmacists want you to continue taking the drug. You will have to decide for yourself. The medical professionals say that there isn't enough evidence and that the studies didn't use enough people etc. The government's own preliminary evaluation of the diabetes pill Avandia confirms the heart risks reported in a study earlier this week and suggests that as many as 60,000 to 100,000 heart attacks might be linked to its use since it came on the market eight years ago, a leading member of Congress said Thursday. The FDA said it was still reviewing data on Avandia's risks and had not reached conclusions. I have added this because of the answer below mine that says "the studies were sponsored by a drug company which competes with the one that makes Avandia". GlaxoSmithKline (THE MAKER OF AVANDIA) has made this statement "more reliable, longer-term studies had found no greater risks than those associated with other diabetes drugs." It's hard to know who to trust. . from Bloomberg.com The availability of other drugs, including Takeda Pharmaceutical Co.'s Actos, which works in a similar way and has a suggestion of heart protection, means Avandia, also known as rosiglitazone, isn't needed, he said. ``Physicians may find it difficult to explain to patients why they are starting treatment with a potentially dangerous drug when other choices with longer and better safety records are available,'' he said. ``The jury may still be out with regard to the cardiotoxicity of rosiglitazone, but when it comes to patients safety, `first, do no harm,' should outweigh any presumption of innocence.'' ."

justwondering replied: "The recent report was not a new study. It was a review of many old studies and did not contribute any new information. It was sponsored by a drug company which competes with the one that makes Avandia. 43% inrease over WHAT? I sat in a room full of experts who could not figure out how the media was getting that figure. Don't forget that diabetics have an increased risk for heart disease anyway. Statistics are easy manipulate any way you like. There was an "answer" published in the British medical journal, The Lancet, which completely blasted the first report, which was published in the New England Journal of Medicine. Both of these are respected journals, but I can tell you that in the medical community, many are shocked at how the paper was handles by the NEJM. I would strongly suggest that if you are that concerned you get the papers and read them yourself. Then discuss it with your doctors. EDIT: I would be very suspicious of websites that appear to have an agenda/bias and encourage you to contact a lawyer. Please make medical decisions in colaboration with your professional healthcare providers, not based on media hype or amateur websites."

Peachy replied: "No, it's not safe to take. Find out what else works on blood sugar level... like diet, weight management, and exercise. Read about Avandia here: Read about diet, weight management, and exercise here: I take Metformin. That, combined with good diet and exercise, works very well for many folks."

Becky W replied: "no i have only heard bad things about it"

What is the difference between Actos and Avandia. Does Actos have the same side effects as Avandia? Lately Avandia has been associated with heart failure according to New England Medical Journal. Actos is also being associated with this risk being a similar salt to Avandia. Does anyone know the similarities and differences between the two drugs

Terrible G replied: "Both drugs are in the same class. The FDA as asked Takeda Pharm for their data regarding the heart and Actos. The same is being done for Avandia. A tough issue to sort out. Early signs show that both drugs cause an increase in heart failure across all patient types. I would be safe and avoid both at all costs. I work in the field. The the below poster. You are dead wrong. Look at the data. All studies from both drugs show there is some sort of heart failure increase with both drugs. How much? Who knows. Data in studies makes it hard to figure out the true answer. Fight for market share. BS. I am a Pharma rep in the industry. I sell these drugs. My endo, who I go to for some minor issues has talked to me about this. Very smart doctor. She will never write Avandia again. The data is clear and not good. I have talked to my friends at Takeda. The company that makes Actos. There is an issue with that drug as well. How much of an issue, they do not know. More studies. More time. One thing I have learned from doing this for many years is this, if one drug in the same exact class as the others has a problem the others 9 out of 10 times have the same issue. (When dealing with one major side effect IE Heart faliure)"

justwondering replied: "I disagree with the above poster. I think this is a battle for market share. The New England Journal of Medicine was really taken to task for publishing the Avandia article. Read the article for yourself. Also read the scathing response in the Lancet, an equally well-respected British medical journal. Then talk to your doctor about how this (old) data applies to your particular situation. As with all meds, you must ask whether the benefits outweigh the risks. Often they really do. What bugs me about this one is the way it was driven, funded, published and hyped."

What are good alternatives to Avandia for treating type II Diabetes? I''ve been on Avandia for 3 years, and take metformin as well. Now today, news stories show significantly increased heart attack risk with Avandia, and since heart disease runs in my family, I'd rather not chance it. Plus, Avandia makes it really hard to keep weight down, in my experience.

Canbarra 2 replied: "My doctor just increased my Metformin to three a day. In other words with each meal. But I am also on insulin. But since the warning on Avandia came out I will stay away from that drug. We who have Diabetes do not need unwanted problems from drugs."

Cammie replied: "I stopped avandia several yrs ago after i found out it caused fluid retention . I am glad I did. The statistics on this med sound just horrible . Doctor : I have some good news and some bad news " Family member of a patient with diabetes " Tell me please " Doctor "Your relative's blood sugar is great but he has had a massive heart attack and is dead " Your doctor can help you decide what to do to replace the avandia. Good luck."

mtphellas1 replied: "Ask your doctor about ACTOS it is a TZD that works on a different gene receptor. Ask him about the "Proactive" study. (Avandia's main competitor) Ask if the heart problem is a class effect. I do not beleive that it is. But ask your doctor what he recommends. Actos is Pioglitazone hydrochloride."

justwondering replied: "It is very likely going to be a class effect, so Actos is not an appropriate alternative. The Avandia story has been over-hyped. Read the response in the Lancet, another respected journal. All diabetics are at risk for heart disease regardless of which medication they use. Talk it over with your doctor."

Are there any recalls on avandia or adavent made by park davis? MY MOTHER IS NOW 78. SHE WAS PRESCRIBED AVANDIA AND ADAVENT. It caused her a stroke and park davis is the maker and the drug and food administration never answered the complaint.

MarLo replied: "I don't believe it was recalled, but new warnings were put out last year about causing a higher risk to just such a thing. My doctor took me off of avandament because of the new worries with avandia. best wishes to you and your mom."

Mazher replied: "You can contact them again if they dont bothet to answer you can file suit against them. Avandia has also been linked to more dangerous side effects such as: * Edema * Heart problems * Heart failure Individuals who are taking Avandia and experience fluid retention or swelling, shortness of breath, unusual tiredness or increase in weight should consult with a physician immediately. In 2000, Rezulin diabetes drug was recalled after being linked to dozens of fatal liver disease instances. The FDA announced at the time of the Rezulin recall that Actos and Avandia were safer alternatives for managing Type 2 diabetes. At the time, the consumer group Public Citizen criticized the FDA for waiting too long to issue the Rezulin recall and remained skeptical that other drugs, such as Avandia, would not also cause problems. Since that time, several studies have been published linking Avandia to congestive heart failure and other heart problems. Unfortunately, millions of Americans have already taken Avandia, and one expert estimates that thousands have suffered heart problems as a result. Contact an Avandia Attorney If you suffered congestive heart failure or other Avandia side effect while taking this drug, it is advisable to consult with attorney experienced in dangerous drug litigation as soon as possible. You may be able to hold the drug company responsible for your damages. Contact us today to learn more.(http://www.adrugrecall.com/avandia/contact.html)"

kanangisrinivas replied: "Go to AVANDIA legal view.com and read it thoroughly."

Is there an aternitive medicine for Avandia? I have no insurance and the price of avandia is keeping me from buying it. Is there anything that I can replace it with. Thanks for the help.

Lisa replied: "Talk to an herbalist in your area about cinnamon. Cinnamon is showing great promise for some people. Will it get you off Avandia? Who knows, but it could be worth a shot."

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